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00:00:00 - Introduction

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Partial Transcript: "REES 261, Roma, "Gypsies," Travelers, we're here doing an interview today, here at Oberlin College, in the StudiOC space, it is October 27th at 1:30pm"

"My name is Jacquelynn Gaines, my maiden name is Hangash, I have Romani ancestry on my father's side. I am a CIT Communications Manager at Oberlin College, and I was born and raised in Cleveland"

Segment Synopsis: Basic introduction by Jacquelynn Gaines, and description of where and when this interview is taking place.

Keywords: "Gypsies"; Cleveland; Northeast Ohio; Oberlin College; Roma; Roma community; Romani

Subjects: Romani; women, Romani

00:00:49 - Family History and Immigration Experience in Cleveland

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Partial Transcript: "My family immigrated from Hungary to Kelleys Island, and they actually spent a number of years on the island, before moving to Cleveland proper."

"My dad was born and raised in downtown Cleveland and then he sort of moved out to the west side, his brother did the same thing."

"His brother grew up in a gypsy household, would have spoken the language at home, would have eaten the food at home, would have done all of those cultural practices at home, and then his father passed away. so that sort of fell off after that point. his older brother was really really interested in Americanizing himself."

Segment Synopsis: Jacquelynn Gaines gives a basic overview of her family's migration history from Hungary to Kelleys Island to Cleveland, and then the suburbs later on. She speaks about her father and uncle's experiences growing up in a Romani household and how things changed when their father passed away.

Keywords: Americanization; Americanizing; Bay Village; Berea; Cleveland; Eberhard Manufacturing; Gypsy; Hungarian; Hungary; Kelleys Island; Northeast Ohio; Roma community; family tree; household

Subjects: Romanies -- History; Romanies -- Language; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; Romanies -- Women; Romanies -- Youth

00:05:59 - Questions of Claiming Romani Identity

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Partial Transcript: "I wrestle a lot with questions of identity, and whether I have...um...can claim that ancestry, because i didn't grow up in that environment, i didn't cook the food, i didn't really speak the language, i didn't learn the songs, do all this kind of thing, so I wonder sometimes whether that's legitimate enough"

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about her internal conflicts over identity, and the question of whether she can "claim" her Romani ancestry since she did not grow up with the cultural traditions.

Keywords: claiming ancestry; daily life; identity; legitimacy

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; Romanies--History

00:06:57 - Parents' Relationship and Issues Between (Roma and Non-Romani) Families

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Partial Transcript: "If there was any animosity between the two families, it was primarily over religion."

"There was a lot of animosity here. She would have told you that she was Bohemian, and she was very aggressively not Hungary, not a Hunky, she probably would have said, or not a Gypsy. So she was really adamant that that was not her identity at all in order to divorce herself from that sort of whatever reputation or stereotype she thought my grandfather and his family would have had."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses how her parents met and the conflict that the families had over religion. She also discusses the animosity between her grandparents and her grandmother distancing herself from the Romani and Hungarian identity.

Keywords: "Bohemian"; "Gypsy"; "Hungarian"; "Hunky"; animosity; identity; marriage; religion; wedding

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Identification (Religion)

00:09:01 - "Hunky"

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Partial Transcript: "What does that term, "hunky," mean to you?"

"It's a slur word for Hungarian, I don't like to repeat it."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines explains the term "Hunky," a slur word for "Hungarian" that her grandmother often used.

Keywords: "Hunky"; Hungarian; slur

Subjects: Romanies--History; Slang; slurs (insults)

00:09:27 - Intergenerational Differences Towards Romani Identity

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Partial Transcript: "I don't know that there was any, um, anyone was opposed to me doing it, I think it was more surprise, like why would you care about that or want to go back to that. i feel resentful sometimes, that they didn't hang onto all of those traditions."

"Was there any time in your father's later life when he, like, tried to dig more into it, after he separated more from his brother and being young, that he tried to reconnect at all?"

"It's funny that you should say that, because it's just starting to happen now. He's been sending me flight information for deals to Budapest, so I think he does have a little bit of that desire, even if he doesn't have all this scholarly type interest."

Segment Synopsis: Discussion of her father and uncle's reactions to her genealogy research and interest in Roma ancestry. Gaines also talks about her father's recent interest in reconnecting with his background.

Keywords: Americanize; Budapest; Roma culture; embrace; genealogy; reconnect; reconstruction; resentment; traditions

Subjects: Genealogy; Genealogy & local history; Romanies--History; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions

00:11:07 - Household and Situation Growing Up

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Partial Transcript: "I have two sisters, I'm the oldest of those three daughters. i grew up in Olmstead Falls, which is a southern suburb of Cleveland. I don't really know that my childhood is terribly remarkable."

"Neither my dad nor my mom really had a whole lot of cultural tradition, around holidays or weddings or that kind of thing."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines describes her household (including her siblings and where she grew up) and her family's lack of cultural traditions.

Keywords: Christmas; Cleveland; Olmstead Falls; childhood; cultural tradition; holidays; household; resentment; sisters; weddings

Subjects: Romanies--Social life and customs; Women, Romani; Youth, Romani

00:12:19 - Curiosity Toward Romani Background

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Partial Transcript: "Did you have any sort of curiosity about your background growing up or did it sort of arise later, what was that process of your curiosity coming?"

"My dad just talked about it like it was normal. Honestly, I don't think I even knew until I got my progressive education when I came to work at Oberlin."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about when and how she started thinking about her Roma ancestry in her later years. Also that she only recognized that being Romani was seen as a "bad" thing when she was much older since her father talked about it normally.

Keywords: Gypsy; Romani; background; conservative; curiosity; progressive education

Subjects: Ethnic groups; Ethnic identity; Oberlin College; Romanies--History

00:13:06 - Religion in Household

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Partial Transcript: "Did religion play a certain amount of role in your life, was there tradition connected with that in your family?"

"I grew up in a super evangelical, mega-church type situation."

"My dad grew up in the Catholic Church, went to Catholic churches in Cleveland, he went to Benedictine High School, and I think that was a big part of his upbringing, that clashed with my mom when they got together because he had these more traditional views."

Segment Synopsis: Religion was a big part of her household; her father was very religious while her mother was not, which led to some clashes.

Keywords: Catholic church; evangelical; family; religion; tradition; upbringing

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Identification (Religion); Romanies--Social life and customs

00:13:48 - Her Engagement and Curiosity with Romani Background

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Partial Transcript: "I'm interested in this pattern of engagement that happens generation to generation in your family, be it the origin point of coming from Hungary to being somewhat more connected to tradition, losing it, as you marry out of the culture, and then coming to your position. And I'm curious, do you think that coming to OB or being in this institution, or just a general atmosphere of the times has created this impetus for you to look deeper into your culture, or to find what differentiates you as a person here?"

"I think that Oberlin had a little bit to do with that, at least with the gypsy-ness specifically, but the resurgence and the desire to do some genealogy type research actually happened when i met my now-wife."

"My sisters did not have quite the progressive education that I ended up getting when I came here and are fairly religious and fairly conservative ,and they didn't come to want to do that genealogy research on their own."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about the different influences that she had in terms of finding out more about her background. She also discusses her sisters' disinterest in their Romani heritage.

Keywords: "Southern"; Hungary; Oberlin; background; conservative; culture; engagement; genealogy; generation; impetus; religious; sisters; tradition

Subjects: Ethnic identity; Family, religion, and culture; Genealogy; Genealogy & local history; Oberlin College; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:16:18 - Genealogy Research Process and Cousin Norbert

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Partial Transcript: "I've done a lot of the paper trail work, so I've gone to Kelleys Island and gotten genealogy records and tried to reconstruct the tree a little bit, and collected documents from some of my family members."

"My dad's second cousin, Norbert, still has all of the language, and some of the songs and that kind of thing, so we've been meeting fairly regularly to try to collect some of that because he's a lot older now."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about her research process and an older relative, Norbert, who has retained a lot of the tradition, and whom Gaines works with to carry out her research.

Keywords: Kelleys Island; Norbert; family background; genealogy; paper trail; research

Subjects: Genealogy; Genealogy & local history; Music--Romani influences; Romanies--History

00:18:02 - Core Hungarian Neighborhood

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Partial Transcript: "Why Kelleys Island?"

"The neighborhood that they moved to, they lived on Mount Auburn, which is just south of Buckeye Road, so that was the really big core Hungarian neighborhood in Cleveland in the 1920's, it was something like 18 or 20 percent of the population was Hungarian at the time."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines describes and shows photos of the core Hungarian neighborhood in Cleveland, in which her family lived.

Keywords: 1920's; Buckeye Road; Cleveland; Hungarian neighborhood; Kelleys Island; community

Subjects: Ethnic groups; Ethnic identity; Romanies--History; Romanies--Social life and customs

00:18:48 - Grandfather's Occupation in Cleveland

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Partial Transcript: "Do you have any ideas to what they did in Cleveland...for a career?"

"I think my grandfather worked in a bar there, and ended up going into a partnership with a tavern that he owned in Cleveland when they moved."

Segment Synopsis: A description of her grandfather's occupation in Cleveland: he worked in a bar in Cleveland, and then went into a partnership with a tavern.

Keywords: Cleveland; bar; career; grandfather; tavern

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; Romanies--History

00:19:08 - Realizing Marginalization of "Gypsy" Culture

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Partial Transcript: "You mentioned not really knowing that gypsies were "bad," until you came to this kind of progressive area, and so I was just wondering what people were telling you or what sources you were coming upon that gave you that realization or new perspective...?"

"I think maybe what I came to is sort of folks around me going 'Oh, that's a culture, not a costume' ad campaign, and I went 'Oh, that's a slur, people use this in a bad way.'"

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses how she came to realize that being "Gypsy" was seen as a bad thing by some when she came to Oberlin, when it had been normal to her growing up.

Keywords: culture; gypsy; normal; progressive; slur

Subjects: Cultural appropriation; Gypsy; Oberlin College; Romanies--Social life and customs; slurs (insults)

00:20:03 - Connecting with Roma Community in Cleveland and Conflict in Identity

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Partial Transcript: "Have you made any attempts in Cleveland to connect with the gypsy culture there?"

"I really struggle a lot with that, back to that identity question, whether I have the "right" to do that or would be welcomed in those communities because I wasn't raised that way and really don't have a lot of that background. I don't know if I would or wouldn't at some point, but right now, I feel sort of uncomfortable about taking that step."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about her discomfort with reaching out or attempting to be part of the Roma community in Cleveland because she doesn't know how the community will receive her, which goes back to her own internal conflict about identity.

Keywords: "right"; Cleveland; background; communities; gypsy; identity

Subjects: Ethnic identity; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; Romanies--Social life and customs; Women, Romani

00:20:44 - Bohemian and Scottish Sides of Family Background

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Partial Transcript: "Are there other sides of your family background that you're looking into, like the Bohemian side, or your mother's ancestry?"

"Yeah, I've done a lot of ancestry work on my mother's side. I'm Scottish all the way back on that side, and have traveled to the town in Scotland where they're from."

"They're records are a lot better, they're just a lot cleaner. And so doing the records work on the Hungarian side is a lot tougher."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses doing genealogy work on her mother's side, compares Hungarian and Scottish records, and talks about the research she has done on her Scottish side.

Keywords: Bohemian; Hungarian; Scotland; Scottish; ancestry; family background; records

Subjects: Genealogy; Genealogy & local history; Gypsy; Romanies--History; Scottish religious cultures

00:21:18 - Difficulty of Finding Locations in Hungary

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Partial Transcript: "Were you able to search or find anything in Budapest or Hungary?"

"Yeah, I do have some town names and that kinda thing, but it's real fuzzy. And a lot of it too, the borders have shifted a lot too, which makes it a little tricky. Some of the counties are in what is now Romania that I have written down and so I don't know if those are legitimate or not."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about the difficulty of locating counties and towns in Hungary especially because of the shifts in borders that have occurred over time.

Keywords: Budapest; Hungary; Romania; borders

Subjects: Romanies--History; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions; Romanies--Social life and customs

00:21:46 - Connecting with Roma Community in Cleveland and Conflict in Identity (Revisited)

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Partial Transcript: "Have you come up with any names that come from this island that you can contact...what kind of approach would you take..."
"...I'm just not even sure what form that would take. I was looking through my grandmother's stack of photographs to bring the one's for you guys today and...she meticulously wrote folks names around the photographs...I wouldn't know how to go about contacting them at this point, especially if, people who aren't family."

Segment Synopsis: The interview goes back to the topic of Gaines connecting with the Cleveland Romani community. Although she does have some names from her Grandmother's belongings, she has an internal debate as to whether she can rightfully "claim" her Romani ancestry because of how removed she has been from the cultural traditions.

Keywords: Archiving; Archiving heritage; Cleveland; Family; Gypsy; Heritage; Hungary; Inter-generation; Ohio; Roma; photographic heritage

Subjects: Ethnic groups; Genealogy & local history; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:22:36 - Using this Information Moving Forward (Food Waste, Cooking)

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Partial Transcript: "What's next for you with this information? Is this, like, a personal project or are you trying to do other things with it?"
"Yeah so I have a lot of interest in food waste. My primary hobby is cooking and I am really interested in trying to collect and reconstruct some of the recipes and cooking practices, and so that's like the focus of my 'research' if you should call it that."
"What interests you about that?"
"I think just because that was my primary hobby. I love food and cooking..."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses her interest in food (and food waste) and how that ties in with the research she is doing on her own Romani background. She hopes to collect and reconstruct some of the traditional recipes from her grandmother.

Keywords: Cooking; Food waste; Hungarian cooking; Hungarian food; Tradition; culinary research; cultural food; food; food research; recipes

Subjects: Cooking, Hungarian; Food waste -- Baltic States; Romanies--Social life and customs

00:23:50 - Passing Down Reconstructed Histories to the Next Generation

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Partial Transcript: "If you do (have children) is that (Roma culture) part of what you'd like to give to..."
"I haven't decided whether I'm going to have kids or not but my sisters are pretty solidly set on it so if we can pass it along to them then we're good...but, um...sharing it with my family is something that is important to me, I think i sort of wonder whether I could win my sisters over a little bit more if, oh, we're sitting down over this dish that I've made, like can we have a little conversation that's a little bit less, um...tense I guess through that medium of food."

Segment Synopsis: She talks about passing down Romani traditions through the medium of food to the next generation (possibly her own kids someday, but for now, her nephews and nieces). She also discusses using food to talk about Romani ancestry with her sisters.

Keywords: children; cultural heritage; food; generation; hungarian; roma; traditions

Subjects: Cooking, Hungarian; Romanies--Social life and customs; conflict of generations

00:24:39 - Womanhood, Feminism and Queerness In Roma Culture

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Partial Transcript: "In this class we've been reading a lot of literature about being a woman in a lot of gypsy's cultures and a lot of, um, there's been a lot of, sort of word about, um, you know that you can't be gypsy and have that cultural identity and be a feminist and I'm wondering, with that said, what the role of being a woman in your family has been..."
"I can't really speak to it from that gypsy perspective very much and my grandmother lived outside of that because she embraced this sort of 'bohemianness' so she lived outside of those contraints...one of the things that is harder for me to reconcile, rather than just being a woman and bringing your feminism to it is my queerness..."

Segment Synopsis: In response to a question about the conflicts between feminism and Romani identity, Gaines discusses her own views on the matter: more than her feminism, her queerness is something that is harder to reconcile with her Romani identity.

Keywords: Feminism; Gypsy; Queerness; Roma; cleveland; homosexuality; hungarian queerness; womanhood

Subjects: Feminism; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; Sexual minorities -- Civil rights -- Ohio -- Cleveland; Women, Romani -- Social conditions

00:26:35 - The Motivation Behind The Work (Self-Discovery)

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Partial Transcript: "What is it that motivates you to do this work and have you, throughout this journey of research, have you discovered anything about yourself, just as a person. What has that been like"
"I don't know that I, I'm just so uncomfortable with the idea of embracing this identity so I think I have a detached, kind of, view of the research I'm doing. It feels sort of scholarly and analytical to me, even though it's my family..."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses her detached, scholarly perspective and approach toward her family history research despite the fact that it is personal information, because of her discomfort with claiming Romani identity.

Keywords: American Identity; Becoming; Becoming Roma; Contemporary Race Issues In America; Cultural Welcomeness; Gypsy Identity; Identity Formation; Imposter Syndrome; Roma Identity; detachment; identity; motivation; research; scholarly; traditional identity

Subjects: Cultural appropriation; Ethnic identity; Impostors and imposture -- United States; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:28:17 - When Roma Was First Heard

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Partial Transcript: "When did you first hear the word 'Roma,' was this a term that your father never used in relation to Gypsy or Hungarian?"
"Oh no I don't think he would even know it to hear it now really, or Identify that way. But he would identify as gypsy."

Segment Synopsis: Roma was not heard much in her household growing up, but came later when her work began in Oberlin. Gypsy was commonly used.

Keywords: Gypsy; Gypsy Identity; Racial Language; Racist Language; Roma; Terminology; identity; language; racism; slurs

Subjects: Ethnic identity; Romani language; Romanies--Hungary--Social conditions; Romanies--Social life and customs

00:28:42 - Music In Roma Culture

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Partial Transcript: "I feel like another one of the things that we've been running into a lot in this class, um, besides, like, woman's roles is music. Like we have George Batyi coming and we've done lots with it, and you mentioned that Norbert, I believe it was, was in a polka band..."
"Yeah they definitely weren't performers as a profession but we absolutely have a lot of music in our background, most of my family is sort of musical or plays instruments"

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses music within the context of her Romani family. She mentions that although her Romani relatives were not professional performers, music was definitely a big part of their lives and many of her family members are musical.

Keywords: european folk music; folk music; hungarian folk music; music; musical tradition; polka; roma music

Subjects: Music--Romani influences; Romanies--Music; Romanies--Social life and customs; musicians (employment)

00:31:08 - Other Family and Their Relationship To Their History

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Partial Transcript: "Are any of your cousins also interested in the Romani background?"

"Yeah I have one cousin who is my first cousin and he's very interested. And the interesting thing about Chris is that he's gay also, so that complicates factors as well...reconnecting with communities is tricky."

Segment Synopsis: In this segment, Gaines discusses other family members in her generation in terms of their interest in the family history. In particular, she talks about her cousin Chris, who, like her, is interested in learning more about their Romani heritage and is also gay.

Keywords: Family trees; Research; familial research; family tree; heritage; hungarian family history; hungarian history; lineage

Subjects: Genealogy; Genealogy & local history; Romanies--History; Romanies--Social life and customs

00:31:54 - Career Pressure From Family

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Partial Transcript: "At any point while you were deciding what you wanted to do with your lively hood or career, um, if there was outside pressure telling you to follow a certain path."

"Yeah, um, I think there definitely was. I mean I've had an interest in an arts type background but definitely felt pressure to get a more stable job, you know? Because my dad did, he went and got out of the manufacturing and took a step up and got a white-collar banking job and I think he expected his children to do the same."

Segment Synopsis: There was not much support for an arts background and rather an expectation of a more stable job. Her father had gotten a white-collar banking job and expected his children (Jacquelynn and her sisters) to do the same.

Keywords: arts education; baby boomers; career expectations; generation x; generation y; millennials; roma

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; conflict of generations

00:32:42 - Describing Current Career

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Partial Transcript: "Can you describe what your career is now?"

"Yeah, I am the CIT communications manager, that was my first job out of college, ten years ago now. And, um, I do all of the website and graphic design stuff that comes out of the graphic design department. I worked for a theater for about ten years before that..."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses her current job, as the CIT Communications Manager at Oberlin College, and gives us a little bit of background about what she had done before getting her current job at Oberlin ten years ago.

Keywords: Cleveland; Cleveland Careers; Contemporary Careers; Graphic Design; Hungarian Immigrants; Hungarian Immigration; Oberlin; Ohio; Ohio Labor; Ohio economy; Roma; Roma in Cleveland; Rust Belt

Subjects: Oberlin College; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:33:17 - Becoming/Performing Identity

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Partial Transcript: "Do you find that, (coughs) when you're interacting with either family members that you have that are more closely connected to their Roma heritage or any, like, Roma in Cleveland that you've interacted with, that your affect changes at all or your way of speaking...do just, do you find yourself kind of like, trying to, I don't know, adapt more to what your conception of what would be a more relatable person?"

"Absolutely. One of the most difficult things about going to talk to Norbert is that the class is a lot different. My grandparents grew up in fairly, what you would call poverty, they didn't have a whole lot of extra money and a lot of the folks on that side ended up sort of in the trades, um, Norbert did some construction work, his sons all did construction work, so definitely the ways I dress and speak and that sort of thing have that consciousness in them."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about class disparity between her and her Romani relatives, which shapes the way that she interacts with them. In particular, she raises the example of her uncle Norbert, who was in construction work; when she interacts with him and his family, she is conscious about how she dresses and speaks.

Keywords: Becoming; cleveland; gypsy identity; identity; low income; lower class; performing class; performing identity; poverty; roma; roma identity

Subjects: Race identity; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs; class identity; lower class

00:34:27 - The Roma vs Gypsy Question

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Partial Transcript: "I am, um, I'm wondering about your thoughts, so you said that you, going back to the Roma Gypsy sort of question, so you heard gypsy all growing up but only recently, semi-recently heard Roma, so what is your relationship to those words and how do you use them when you use them."

"I almost always choose Romani when I'm speaking to anyone who is outside my family because I don't want to encourage them to use the word gypsy, lest they aren't aware of the potential for that to be a slur"

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses how she differentiates between using "Gypsy" and "Romani." While her father always casually used the term "Gypsy" in the household, she is careful to only use the term "Romani" when speaking to anyone outside of her family in order to discourage the usage of "Gypsy" among non-Romani people.

Keywords: Gypsy; Hungarian Gypsy; Hungarian Roma; Racial slurs; Roma; Romani; Slurs; Terminology; identity politics

Subjects: Hungarian Immigration; Identity Politics; Racial Slurs; Reclaiming Slurs; Terminology

00:35:15 - Music In Comparison To Cooking Traditions

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Partial Transcript: "Could you ever see piano being something akin to cooking, if cooking is one way of maybe applying traditions or is it different..."

"Yeah maybe I should get Norbert to teach me some stuff..(laughs) yeah I think that that definitely could be a cultural component to the research. I just have such an interest in cooking..."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses her love of cooking and how that has been part of her learning and identity-searching process. She compares cooking with piano as a way of applying Romani traditions to her daily life, and jokes that maybe she will have Norbert teach her some music traditions.

Keywords: Cooking; Cultural Traditions; Hungarian Cooking; Hungarian Folk Music; Music; Roma traditions; cleveland gypsy; cleveland roma

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Hungarian Background; Musicians, Romani; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:36:38 - Class Differences Effecting Community Interactions

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Partial Transcript: "You mentioned kind of like class being, not a difference but barrier, but do you see that in the way that your dad interacts with his relatives?"

"Yeah my dad can switch back and forth a lot easier because he grew up in a blue collar environment so he's a lot more comfortable in that environment."

Segment Synopsis: She discusses her father's ability to switch between the white collar and blue collar family environments in the context of class acting as a barrier.

Keywords: Class; Imposter Syndrome; baby boomers; cleveland; gypsy; hungarian; hungarian immigration; ohio; roma; white collar

Subjects: Class; Class Performance; Hungarian Immigration; Imposter Syndrome; Roma Class; White Collar

00:37:09 - Shifts In Upbringing Generation to Generation

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Partial Transcript: "What do you think shifted in the generations, like with your dad's upbringing versus yours..."

"Hmmm I don't know, I'd like to ask him that question, why he's only sort of coming to that now, um, you had mentioned that you thought maybe there was a cultural push towards, maybe, this, recently, so maybe it's that or maybe it's the ancestry.com commercials, I really don't know."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines talks about generational differences specifically in terms of interest in Romani heritage between her and her father's generation. She mentions being curious about her father's recent curiosity towards his Romani heritage.

Keywords: cleveland; generations; gypsy; hungarian; roma; upbringing

Subjects: Family, religion, and culture; Genealogy; Romanies -- United States -- Social life and customs

00:37:58 - Generational Disinterest in Roma Culture

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Partial Transcript: "We talked recently with another...forgot his name, the first person that we interviewed..."
"Steve Biskor"
"Piskor... and he expressed a lot of concern of a generation that had lost interest in his culture...I'm wondering if you feel any, like, responsibility to rekindle that, to put at ease people like Piskor who just yearn for this generation that he feels is lost."

"Absolutely, I wish that my extended cousins outside of Chris and my sisters would be more interested, I wish there were more young people interested...But does someone like Steve Biskor really want someone like me?"

Segment Synopsis: Gaines discusses general disinterest in Romani ancestry within her family. She talks about how she wishes that relatives in her generation cared more about the heritage but at the same time, voices concern about whether leaders in the Romani community like Steve Piskor would want someone distant from traditions to be part of the Romani community.

Keywords: Cultural Access; Cultural Tradition; Cultural responsibility; Generation Disinterest; Identity; Roma; Romani Culture

Subjects: Cultural Access; Cultural Tradition; Cultural responsibility; Generation Disinterest; Identity; Roma; Romani Culture

00:39:08 - Final Remarks (Sharing Recipes)

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Partial Transcript: "We have a couple of minutes left, is there anything else that you wanted to know or wanted to share..."

"I did bring some recipes with me (class joyous), because I'm really interested in this idea of authenticity in food...."

Segment Synopsis: Gaines ends her remarks for the interview by sharing some of her recipes with the class.

Keywords: Authenticity; Gypsy cuisine; Hungarian Food; Recipes; Roma Food; chicken paprikash; cuisine; eastern europe; eastern european cuisine; food authenticity; gypsy food

Subjects: Authenticity; Authenticity in food; Eastern European Cuisine; Food Waste; Hungarian Food